Re: future of prima

From: Peter Shangov <pshangov_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:30:03 +0100 (BST)
To: prima_at_prima.eu.org

Hi Dmitry,

I fully realize that making Prima themable would involve tweaking
hundreds of small details. But given the effort invested so far in
creating Prima, it would be wise to invest a little more and make it
appealing to a wide hacker community. Thus you would get more people
fixing, improving and porting it and Prima would be much more likely to
become a viable choice for large or commercial projects. And there is a
dire need for a stable and feature complete Perl GUI toolkit.

I am currently on a non-programming job where I do not have
administrator access to my PC, and I don't have a computer at home
either. Either, or both of these circumstances are expected to change
soon and when this happens I'll be glad to try and contribute some work
in that direction, because within the next few months I'll have to
start working on a project that would involve a lot of GUI programming
and I am not sure I have the right tools for this yet.

Peter

P.S.

 --- Dmitry Karasik <dmitry_at_karasik.eu.org> wrote: > Hi Peter!
>
> On 09 Jul 03 at 16:57, "Peter" (Peter Shangov) wrote:
>
> Peter> * Has anybody considered implementing a resource database
> file for
> Peter> Prima that would contain information about the look of the
> toolkit
> Peter> - e.g. margins, colours, borders, etc, so that these could be
> Peter> configured from a single place for all Prima apps. If Prima
> would
> Peter> support such configuration, it would be easy to write a
> module that
> Peter> checks on startup the user preferences for the current system
> so
> Peter> that Prima apps can have the native look and feel of the
> current
> Peter> OS. As far as I gather this would involve pure perl hacking,
> right?
> Peter> Prima, with all it can do and native look and feel, will
> Peter> deffinitely make one of perl's major killer apps, right after
> CPAN
> Peter> and the internet :)
>
> The resource database exists currently, but where for X11 it is XRDB,
> for
> Win32 it's undocumented hacks with the registry. It is probably a
> good
> idea to unify the database and make it pure-perl and portable, but,
> as
> the usage of Prima is not that wide, I can't collect the opinions
> about
> such change - would people need it, hate it, or just wouldn't notice?
>
>
> OTOH, the problem is not that simple. The look and feel is not only
> colors,
> which can be easily adjustable already. It is ( to me ) a number of
> small changes here and there, a button looks this and a scrollbar
> looks that, and I can't think of anything elegant enough to fit here.
> Vadim Belman started implementing themes, but didn't finish.
>
> What would you say makes Prima different from native look? Probably,
> the most annoying things can be re-implemented now? I don't mean
> sway to the M$'s way, but if a widget would gain in usability, then
> it might be worthy.
>
> Peter> * How feasible is it to embed the Gecko engine in Prima?
>
> I have no idea. One can always code come C/XS though.
>
> Peter> * Would you be interested in getting someone (e.g. me at some
> point
> Peter> in the future) to work on the prima website and on spreading
> the
> Peter> word about prima in order to make more hackers users of
> prima, get
> Peter> more ports to new platforms and try to ensure its development
> would
> Peter> continue even if the original creator gives it up.
>
> I definitely am. If you, or someone you know, would do anything that
> benefits the project, this help will be greatly appreciated.
>
> --
> Sincerely,
> Dmitry
>
> --- www.karasik.eu.org ---
>
> Life ain't fair, but the root password helps.
> - BOFH
>

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